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Post by Anonymous on May 14, 2020 10:52:20 GMT -5
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Post by hello on Jun 6, 2020 1:57:21 GMT -5
did anyone with 86-89 get an interview?
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Post by oacaggie on Jun 6, 2020 8:06:28 GMT -5
did anyone with 86-89 get an interview? I think the interview cut off was around 88.5 from what I've heard. Not sure though. You'll have to wait for the 2024 stats to be released in the fall to know for sure. |
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Post by OVC2021DVM on Jun 11, 2020 23:01:31 GMT -5
As someone who is almost done her time at OVC, I *REALLY* hope they change the emphasis on grades soon, even if I doubt they will. I can assure you that, having seen the grads in classes before and after me, grades alone are NOT a good way to choose DVM candidates.
Regardless of what the admissions team tells you, people who don't make the "cutoff" ARE more than capable of becoming excellent vets. Some OVC faculty say "previous academic success is the best predictor of future academic success," which is ridiculous in a world where people with high 80's averages aren't even being offered an interview. In my opinion, any full-time university student who can achieve an 80+ average should be considered for an interview for the DVM program, assuming the have a respectable experience repertoire and references.
Some people come into the DVM program with stellar grades but a lack of people skills, animal skills, problem-solving skills, or a combination of all three. There is so much more to being a veterinarian than grades can ever predict.
For those of you who don't get an interview simply because someone out there has a percent or two higher, please know that the system is flawed, not necessarily you. OVC tries to maintain and publicize a gloating self-image. It is a stellar research and treatment facility but it is NOT a stellar teaching institution. To be a good vet you must have many skills, and must humble yourself. Each class that comes into OVC seems to be less and less prepared for the realities of vet medicine, including compassion, work-life balance, humour, interaction, and problem-solving.
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Post by ovch0peful on Jun 12, 2020 9:18:26 GMT -5
As someone who is almost done her time at OVC, I *REALLY* hope they change the emphasis on grades soon, even if I doubt they will. I can assure you that, having seen the grads in classes before and after me, grades alone are NOT a good way to choose DVM candidates. Regardless of what the admissions team tells you, people who don't make the "cutoff" ARE more than capable of becoming excellent vets. Some OVC faculty say "previous academic success is the best predictor of future academic success," which is ridiculous in a world where people with high 80's averages aren't even being offered an interview. In my opinion, any full-time university student who can achieve an 80+ average should be considered for an interview for the DVM program, assuming the have a respectable experience repertoire and references. Some people come into the DVM program with stellar grades but a lack of people skills, animal skills, problem-solving skills, or a combination of all three. There is so much more to being a veterinarian than grades can ever predict. For those of you who don't get an interview simply because someone out there has a percent or two higher, please know that the system is flawed, not necessarily you. OVC tries to maintain and publicize a gloating self-image. It is a stellar research and treatment facility but it is NOT a stellar teaching institution. To be a good vet you must have many skills, and must humble yourself. Each class that comes into OVC seems to be less and less prepared for the realities of vet medicine, including compassion, work-life balance, humour, interaction, and problem-solving. This means a lot, having missed the interview cutoff by what is probably somewhere between 0.1-0.5%. At this point I don't know how much higher grades can go, and there is zero attention to the difficulty of the program or courses (who in the world can sustain a 95+ average in university while gaining vet experience, doing ECs, and having anything resembling a healthy life?  ). The path to vet school as an Ontario resident gets narrower every year for me and many others. |
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Post by 2cents on Jun 12, 2020 10:05:58 GMT -5
As someone who is almost done her time at OVC, I *REALLY* hope they change the emphasis on grades soon, even if I doubt they will. I can assure you that, having seen the grads in classes before and after me, grades alone are NOT a good way to choose DVM candidates. Regardless of what the admissions team tells you, people who don't make the "cutoff" ARE more than capable of becoming excellent vets. Some OVC faculty say "previous academic success is the best predictor of future academic success," which is ridiculous in a world where people with high 80's averages aren't even being offered an interview. In my opinion, any full-time university student who can achieve an 80+ average should be considered for an interview for the DVM program, assuming the have a respectable experience repertoire and references. Some people come into the DVM program with stellar grades but a lack of people skills, animal skills, problem-solving skills, or a combination of all three. There is so much more to being a veterinarian than grades can ever predict. For those of you who don't get an interview simply because someone out there has a percent or two higher, please know that the system is flawed, not necessarily you. OVC tries to maintain and publicize a gloating self-image. It is a stellar research and treatment facility but it is NOT a stellar teaching institution. To be a good vet you must have many skills, and must humble yourself. Each class that comes into OVC seems to be less and less prepared for the realities of vet medicine, including compassion, work-life balance, humour, interaction, and problem-solving. This means a lot, having missed the interview cutoff by what is probably somewhere between 0.1-0.5%. At this point I don't know how much higher grades can go, and there is zero attention to the difficulty of the program or courses (who in the world can sustain a 95+ average in university while gaining vet experience, doing ECs, and having anything resembling a healthy life? ). The path to vet school as an Ontario resident gets narrower every year for me and many others. So I have a hunch, that MAYBE, they are using our admissions cycle to conduct a pilot test for CASPer as a pre-interview screening tool. This test is most frequently used by med schools in Canada to minimize the chance of inviting a candidate who has high stats but sub-par problem solving and communication skills to interview, and increasing the chance of invitation for someone with slightly lower stats but with more desirable inter-personal skills based on their CASPer score. I imagine/hope they would want to invite people they expect to do well in the interview, which you can’t necessarily discern from a GPA. This isn’t to say that CASPer won’t be factored into admissions decisions this year, but from what I have read, the majority of schools in Canada and USA conduct a pilot year for CASPer to see how those scores correlate with their admissions decisions. |
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Post by ovc2020dvm on Jun 12, 2020 20:47:28 GMT -5
As someone who is almost done her time at OVC, I *REALLY* hope they change the emphasis on grades soon, even if I doubt they will. I can assure you that, having seen the grads in classes before and after me, grades alone are NOT a good way to choose DVM candidates. Regardless of what the admissions team tells you, people who don't make the "cutoff" ARE more than capable of becoming excellent vets. Some OVC faculty say "previous academic success is the best predictor of future academic success," which is ridiculous in a world where people with high 80's averages aren't even being offered an interview. In my opinion, any full-time university student who can achieve an 80+ average should be considered for an interview for the DVM program, assuming the have a respectable experience repertoire and references. Some people come into the DVM program with stellar grades but a lack of people skills, animal skills, problem-solving skills, or a combination of all three. There is so much more to being a veterinarian than grades can ever predict. For those of you who don't get an interview simply because someone out there has a percent or two higher, please know that the system is flawed, not necessarily you. OVC tries to maintain and publicize a gloating self-image. It is a stellar research and treatment facility but it is NOT a stellar teaching institution. To be a good vet you must have many skills, and must humble yourself. Each class that comes into OVC seems to be less and less prepared for the realities of vet medicine, including compassion, work-life balance, humour, interaction, and problem-solving. As a recent grad, I encourage you to self reflect and work on anything that may be contributing to you holding yourself back in 4th year. You learn so many things in your clinical year that you simply cannot learn via lectures, which is what you get for your first 3 years. Even without in-person rotations, the way they conduct rounds is extremely useful and you can still learn a LOT even with COVID. You and your classmates will find your footing soon, and then most of what you described will be addressed. There is a reason OVC produces good veterinarians and it’s based on the program as a whole, not just one component. You’re now ready for the final part that will piece it all together  as for the grades, yes that’s an issue, and I believe they’re working on it by introducing Casper. |
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Post by OVC2021DVM on Jun 16, 2020 20:10:40 GMT -5
As someone who is almost done her time at OVC, I *REALLY* hope they change the emphasis on grades soon, even if I doubt they will. I can assure you that, having seen the grads in classes before and after me, grades alone are NOT a good way to choose DVM candidates. Regardless of what the admissions team tells you, people who don't make the "cutoff" ARE more than capable of becoming excellent vets. Some OVC faculty say "previous academic success is the best predictor of future academic success," which is ridiculous in a world where people with high 80's averages aren't even being offered an interview. In my opinion, any full-time university student who can achieve an 80+ average should be considered for an interview for the DVM program, assuming the have a respectable experience repertoire and references. Some people come into the DVM program with stellar grades but a lack of people skills, animal skills, problem-solving skills, or a combination of all three. There is so much more to being a veterinarian than grades can ever predict. For those of you who don't get an interview simply because someone out there has a percent or two higher, please know that the system is flawed, not necessarily you. OVC tries to maintain and publicize a gloating self-image. It is a stellar research and treatment facility but it is NOT a stellar teaching institution. To be a good vet you must have many skills, and must humble yourself. Each class that comes into OVC seems to be less and less prepared for the realities of vet medicine, including compassion, work-life balance, humour, interaction, and problem-solving. As a recent grad, I encourage you to self reflect and work on anything that may be contributing to you holding yourself back in 4th year. You learn so many things in your clinical year that you simply cannot learn via lectures, which is what you get for your first 3 years. Even without in-person rotations, the way they conduct rounds is extremely useful and you can still learn a LOT even with COVID. You and your classmates will find your footing soon, and then most of what you described will be addressed. There is a reason OVC produces good veterinarians and it’s based on the program as a whole, not just one component. You’re now ready for the final part that will piece it all together as for the grades, yes that’s an issue, and I believe they’re working on it by introducing Casper. I appreciate the response but partially (and respectfully) disagree. I don't think there was anything in my statement that inferred I was being held back. I have eagerly awaiting the fourth year experience and the hands-on practice that we simply don't get in the first three years. I have been utilizing our incredibly disappointing time off by preparing for the NAVLE, working in clinics, and finishing exams. The point of my post was to let those who are OVC hopefuls know that some of us within the program itself believe the admissions process is heavily flawed. The fact of the matter is, some things CAN'T be taught, no matter what someone tells you. High grades alone will never compensate for someone who is incompatible for this profession. There is no definitive proof that OVC produces veterinarians on par with or better than other institutions. We have a low employer satisfaction rating and our high NAVLE pass rate comes at the expense of a curriculum that could have been clinically relevant. OVC flushes tons of veterinary talent down the toilet every year simply by refusing to even consider people below an ever-rising threshold. That is not acceptable for ours or any profession. The only reason Casper was brought into the equation was because of COVID. Having an alternate interview format unfortunately changes nothing about the abysmal way is which people are denied even a chance at a seat. I wish you the very best as you embark on your journey, Rhino! I truly think you're trying to be supportive but I am very passionate about the changes I believe our school needs to make if it truly strives to serve the profession. |
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). The path to vet school as an Ontario resident gets narrower every year for me and many others. 
as for the grades, yes that’s an issue, and I believe they’re working on it by introducing Casper.