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Post by Guest 123 on Mar 8, 2014 21:54:11 GMT -5
Hi I was just wondering if there were many people who decline there offer or was there just 1 or 2 a year or is this a very rare thing?
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Post by Guest 987 on Mar 10, 2014 5:33:16 GMT -5
I'd be interested in hearing about that as well!
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Post by Guest1 on Mar 10, 2014 7:16:39 GMT -5
It's not common. I don't work in admissions, but I would say maybe one offer may be declined each year in the Canadian applicant pool. That's why a 'wait list' doesn't exist - they don't need one.
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Post by kate3333 on Mar 10, 2014 7:51:07 GMT -5
I don't know if that's necessarily true... My friend was sort of "waitlisted" one year-- basically, if someone dropped out in the first week of classes, the spot was hers.
But I agree, this is very rare.
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Post by lowenger on Mar 10, 2014 8:40:41 GMT -5
Sorry Kate3333 we do not have a waitlist. If someone drops out the first week, which hasn't happened in the 10 years I've been here, we do not accept someone who applied but did not get in.
We rank everyone after the interview. If someone withdraws or defers over the summer we may offer admission to the 101st student in the ranking. That is usually because the 100th person and the 101th person may differ by very little in terms of numbers.
Is it possible your friend was offered admission in August?
It is true, it's rare that people withdraw. It is much more common for people to defer for specific reasons and join the next year's class. But this is at most one person per year if any.
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Post by Kate333355 on Mar 10, 2014 13:22:26 GMT -5
Ah I see... I did just ask her and it was PEI not Guelph that waitlisted her.
Sorry to confuse anyone!
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Post by Guest2393 on Mar 16, 2014 0:35:32 GMT -5
Hi there!
I was just wondering about something I have been thinking about for a while. I haven't yet applied to the DVM program yet, though I plan to next year. I know OVC doesn't really give unsuccessful applicants a "reason" or a breakdown as to why they weren't admitted but from how the admissions procedure works it has always seemed to me that, say, if you are not offered an interview then you could potentially take it as your grades weren't quite high enough, seeing as the top 200 applicants, based on marks, are given an interview. Then if you were offered an interview however were not admitted you could tentatively say it may be you need to work on your interview skills or your extracurricular/animal/veterinary experience. Just wondered what others thought about this. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!
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Post by OVC2018please on Mar 16, 2014 6:32:21 GMT -5
As far as I know that sounds about right. Though if you look at the selections process on the OVC website your BIF experience is used to determine if your an acceptable candidate for an interview, which is the last time it is mentioned on the selections process page, so I'm assuming that once your offered an interview they no longer look at your experience (correct me if I'm wrong). So bad reference or poor experience can be used as a red flag that will prevent you from getting an interview. Its always best to make sure you have varied quality experience and ask your references if the plan on giving you a good letter of reference. You can ask the DVM or other if you can read it before they sign and seal it, however they're not required too. If your experience is in order. and you were not offered an interview it would probably be safe to assume that your grades were not in the top 200 applicants. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing for sure the particular reason for not getting an interview. So if you don't get an interview try to find out what is your worst section and improve on that. This website has the details of the admissions stats for the last few years: www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/recruitment/en/applyingtodvm/selectionprocess.asp It has the ranges of grades/MCAT/interview scores fro those admitted and may give you something to compare too. If you were given an interview and still did not get in I wouldn't assume it was because of your interview score Given your grades are your initial ranking, the lower score you have on that section the lower you'll be on the list of top 200 applicants, and overall your grades count for 65% of your total score. However, you do find out what your exact interview score (the average admitted interview score was ~77% last year) is sometime in the summer after admissions decisions have been sent out. Using all of this info you can make an educated guess on what you'll need to work on for next year if your not admitted. You can also use the admissions calculator posted on this thread to see your final average score and see how far off it is from the admissions cut off. However, as you said OVC doesn't give specific reasons to applicants for why they didn't get in. The best you can do is work to improve all aspects of your application and try again next year! Hope this helps! |
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Post by Guest2393 on Apr 5, 2014 18:07:34 GMT -5
OVC2018please:
Mhm I agree, that is really helpful thanks so much for your insight! Oh man, I can't tell you how many times I have stared and calculated and obsessed over the past years' statistics hahah.
I was wondering though, if for some reason an applicant is not admitted because they do not quite meet the eligibility requirements (say a course wasn't approved, semesters weren't "full time," not enough credits taken etc), that kind of thing, is the applicant notified as to why they weren't accepted? If the reason they weren't accepted was not because their marks weren't high enough and/or their interview score wasn't great, if it is more administrative, are they told? Just curious! I would be awful for someone to apply, say twice or even 3 times, only to realize they had overlooked a requirement or something didn't quite qualify, yikes.
Thanks!
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Post by OVC2018please on Apr 6, 2014 6:39:55 GMT -5
From the many emails I have sent and received to the admissions department, if a course does't meet the requirements they will just contact you and ask for a replacement course, they're not going to just decline you, as for if a semester is invalid I don't think you would know as theres no where on the form you can say "please use these two semesters." So I imagine in that regards you would be unaware of which semester you were using. You may be able to email the admissions committee and ask them which semester they're using but I'm not sure if they would tell you. So they don't just scrap your information if you don't meet the eligibility requirements they'd do there best to find suitable replacements for these courses. That being said if they contact you regarding a new course you can figure that into your calculation, as well, just make sure you follow the rules for the semesters and email Ms. Lundmark if you have any questions. I'm sure you have this link already but this is the link to the requirements page: www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/recruitment/en/applyingtodvm/Academicrequirements.aspI know its frustrating not being able to know exactly why you were not accepted (though neither of us has received this news yet!). My best advice is just to follow the rules regarding courses and semesters, so the best you can grades wise and on the MCAT, and explore as many different facets of the veterinary profession as you can! |
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Post by Guest2393 on Apr 7, 2014 10:21:07 GMT -5
Mhm! Thanks OVC2018please! Yeah you're absolutely right, from the correspondences I have had with admissions it definitely seems like they are pretty accommodating so long as the requirements are met. Of course one can't really argue with the requirements. From what I gather on the admissions page the two full time semesters they use to get an average are your LAST (most recent) two completed before January. I was under the assumption they didn't just choose two random full time semesters from the ones you've done. Correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
I'm very excited to start my application! I'll probably start writing my letter of intent/"why I want to be a vet" over the summer even. It's all very exciting!
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Post by OVC2018please on Apr 7, 2014 11:43:36 GMT -5
They take your last two semesters that meet the criteria ! sorry if I mislead you, I was trying to say *since you don't get to chose your semesters* you probably won't know which ones they use in their calculations as I'm assuming they won't tell you if your most recent two don't qualify. That is of course unless one of you prereqs is in the unsuitable semester. Again I don't know if they give you a reason why your course wasn't acceptable.
As for the letter of intent, I defiantly recommend you write it ahead of time, for a lot of my friends this was the hardest and longest part of the application. "Why do you want to be a vet" seems like an innocent enough question, but its one of the hardest ones I've ever had to answer.
Good luck!
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Post by Guest2393 on Apr 8, 2014 23:18:01 GMT -5
No no, you're absolutely right! I mean so long as you have taken a full time semester (5 courses at my University) I don't really see why they wouldn't choose your last two. Unless in the case of some extenuating circumstance.
Oh man, I cam imagine! It sounds like something an applicant could write volumes about!
Thanks for all your help!
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Post by HeidiE on Apr 10, 2014 13:54:53 GMT -5
I was wondering if everybody gets an e mail or only if you do get an interveiw.
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Post by Guest2 on Apr 10, 2014 23:36:03 GMT -5
I was wondering if everybody gets an e mail or only if you do get an interveiw. I'm almost positive you only get an email if you get an interview. |
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Post by HeidiE on Apr 11, 2014 0:45:29 GMT -5
I was wondering if everybody gets an e mail or only if you do get an interveiw. I'm almost positive you only get an email if you get an interview. . I have heard that people got emails that said no last year and some this year already. |
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Post by Kate25555 on Apr 11, 2014 8:37:16 GMT -5
Hi Heidi!
Definitely possible that people who didn't have acceptable courses, semesters, or were below the 75 average in both categories, or had flags (All absolute minimum requirements to be considered) have received their no letters already. (From what I understand)
Last year my friend didn't receive an interview or email, but shortly after received her rejection email.
Hope this helps!
Kate
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Post by Guest 1232345 on Apr 11, 2014 8:41:40 GMT -5
Hey Kate, Sorry, can you clarify? People may have received their no's already but your friend received her rejection after everyone else least year? Have they sent out emails already? Hi Heidi! Definitely possible that people who didn't have acceptable courses, semesters, or were below the 75 average in both categories, or had flags (All absolute minimum requirements to be considered) have received their no letters already. (From what I understand) Last year my friend didn't receive an interview or email, but shortly after received her rejection email. Hope this helps! Kate |
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Post by Kate3435435 on Apr 11, 2014 9:08:30 GMT -5
Hey Guest!
This is just from my understanding and own experience so I cannot confirm 100% this is how things go but....
If you do not meet the following:
75% in both semester and 8 required
Have your application flagged
Semesters or courses unacceptable
You will probably have received your "No" email already.... as of last year this is what happened to me because I had unacceptable courses. This happened before ANYONE even received interview emails.
Fast forward to interview email time.
Some people received emails for interviews, some did not. I have not heard of people receiving rejection letters at this time last year (From my OWN experience)
Those who did NOT receive emails for interviews, therefore already pretty aware they were rejected, received their rejection emails a few weeks later.
I hope this helps! As I said-- cannot confirm or deny this is how things go-- just my own experience and friends experience.
Kate
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