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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 13:04:59 GMT -5
The admissions statistics for the OVC class of 2025 are now online: www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/recruitment/en/applyingtodvm/resources/DVM-Program-Admission-Statistics-2021-saved.pdfThe main take-aways: - The median average for ALL applicants was 90.15 (compare with 88.63 last year). - The minimum average to receive an interview was 89.85 (compare with 88.54 last year). - The median average for interviewed applicants was 91.98 (compare with 90.56 last year). - The minimum average to be admitted was 90.31 (compare with 90.49 last year). - The median average to be admitted was a staggering 93.13 (compare with 92.2 last year). So interestingly it seems to be about a 1.5 point increase across the board this year, which is in line with increases seen in previous years. However, whereas in 2020 the median average for interviewed applicants was very close to the minimum to be admitted (indicating that interview scores did not have a large impact on the final rankings), this year the minimum average to be admitted was significantly lower than the median average for interviewed applicants. This is consistent with what has generally been seen in previous years (2020 was an anomaly in this regard). It's not obvious why 2020 was different, although it likely has to do with the move to CASPer and online interviews. But the fact that the trend has returned to normal this year indicates that isn't the only reason, or that the way the CASPer scores and interview scores were combined may have changed. Predictions for 2022: - The minimum average to receive an interview will continue to increase, although maybe not as much as we reach a plateau in the low 90s. I suspect +1 point would be reasonable, which would place it at around 91. The median average for interviewed applicants will increase similarly. - The minimum average to be admitted will see a relatively large increase, after not changing significantly this year, probably at around 92.5 if a similar interview format is maintained or if we return to MMIs. - The median average to be admitted will also increase, but again not by as much as we reach a plateau for just how high averages can get. I'm guessing a 94.5 would place you in the top 50 admitted. As always, interested in anyone else's thoughts on this!
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Post by Hopeful-student on Aug 24, 2021 7:18:17 GMT -5
I really thought it plateaued in 2024 but I guess not. I have 89.8 average rn and doing my best in new semester can bring me up to 91.125 (if I get all A+ basically) and it will be my fifth year I already graduated. My plan B was going to Caribbean med (I would not be able to pay for international vet schools but there are many affordable small Caribbean med schools at least) I have no idea if I should even try for OVC this year because even doing perfect this semester, I’ll only have a small chance. I feel like it’d be best if I just focused on MCAT instead of taking another semester and just let go of the idea of becoming vet.
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Post by hey on Aug 24, 2021 8:52:55 GMT -5
I do feel like with COVID19 and online learning, marks are more inflated than before. With many schools returning to in-person, the increase in marks may be less severe, at least that is what I hope to happen...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 10:17:41 GMT -5
I don't think the grade inflation will stop until we reach a mid-90s minimum for admissions. This year there were already 100 applicants with 92% average or higher... and for the next 2-3 years, most applicants will have at least some prerequisites completed online...
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Post by chickens2025 on Aug 27, 2021 15:01:40 GMT -5
From my experience, worrying about where other applicants' grades fall will not do you any good. I do not see a point in posts like these, as all it does is discourage people that would be perfectly good applicants from applying. A 91.125 is completely feasible to get accepted. An 89.85 was required for interviews this year, so it is also realistic to be interviewed with an 89.8 application average, so do not let someone's "predictions" discourage you from applying.
My best guess at why this year's interview average was so high is because in the W20 semester, we were given the option to hit P on 2/5 courses. Many people chose this option as it enabled them to drop their two lowest marks for the W20 semester, which is what inflated averages. Additionally, in the W20 semester many professors cancelled final exams/projects/tests or made them open book, which also boosted many people's grades. Many people's application averages increased due to this. Unless the majority of applicants invalidated BOTH the W21 and F21 semesters, the W20 semester will no longer be considered for the applying average, so the grades should be similar or slightly decreased than the 2025 statistics.
For F20 and W20, professors were better equipped to deal with online learning and make it more "normal", so I would not expect future cycle's to be as high as the Class of 2025s. I doubt the admitted average will jump as high as you predict, as the admitted average dropped this year compared to last year's. Again, professors were better equipped to deal with online learning, so grades should not be so inflated that the admitted average jumps 2%.
The OVC is also implementing the CASPer for the 2021-2022 cycle, so this may decrease admitted averages, depending on how they end up using it.
For anyone reading these posts, do not let them discourage you. No one knows how the grades are going to fall. Worry about your own application so it is as strong as it can be, and stop focusing on where you "think" others may fall. This is only going to cause you unnecessary stress during your application.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 17:45:46 GMT -5
You bring up a lot of good points, and I agree W20 is probably one of the reasons for the increased averages.
Of course no one can know for sure ahead of time what the minimum average to be admitted will be, and my point in making this post was not at all to discourage anyone from applying. But I think it is helpful to have a realistic idea of what is competitive, so that students can plan accordingly. Knowing what average is likely required can help students pick their courses, decide on doing an extra semester(s), and understand whether they may need to adjust their study methods to reach the target goal.
The reality is, there is no room for subjective factors when deciding who gets an interview for OVC. I think a lot of applicants think that if they have good veterinary experience and extracurriculars, that can make up for a lower average, but that just isn't the case with OVC's formula.
I think we can objectively say that anyone with less than 88% average (and I would even say less than 90%) is very unlikely to get an interview next year. And yet every year, many people do apply with averages between 75% and 85%. I think being honest about these things will help prevent a lot of students from wasting precious time and money, and putting in a lot of time and effort for something that won't pan out. Especially since students are only allowed to apply four times.
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Post by notthetime on Aug 28, 2021 10:55:40 GMT -5
You bring up a lot of good points, and I agree W20 is probably one of the reasons for the increased averages. Of course no one can know for sure ahead of time what the minimum average to be admitted will be, and my point in making this post was not at all to discourage anyone from applying. But I think it is helpful to have a realistic idea of what is competitive, so that students can plan accordingly. Knowing what average is likely required can help students pick their courses, decide on doing an extra semester(s), and understand whether they may need to adjust their study methods to reach the target goal. The reality is, there is no room for subjective factors when deciding who gets an interview for OVC. I think a lot of applicants think that if they have good veterinary experience and extracurriculars, that can make up for a lower average, but that just isn't the case with OVC's formula. I think we can objectively say that anyone with less than 88% average (and I would even say less than 90%) is very unlikely to get an interview next year. And yet every year, many people do apply with averages between 75% and 85%. I think being honest about these things will help prevent a lot of students from wasting precious time and money, and putting in a lot of time and effort for something that won't pan out. Especially since students are only allowed to apply four times. In all honestly it's not your job to help prevent students from applying, all applicants know what they're getting themselves into before applying and you making these posts only stresses people out. You're doing more harm than good.
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Post by 2024CrimsonCoronaviruses on Aug 30, 2021 11:08:42 GMT -5
y'all need to chill the f**k out
Do your best
Life finds a way
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Post by MooMoo on Dec 2, 2021 19:10:59 GMT -5
Well said
y'all need to chill the f**k out Do your best Life finds a way
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Post by 2024turtle on Feb 17, 2022 8:57:33 GMT -5
I really thought it plateaued in 2024 but I guess not. I have 89.8 average rn and doing my best in new semester can bring me up to 91.125 (if I get all A+ basically) and it will be my fifth year I already graduated. My plan B was going to Caribbean med (I would not be able to pay for international vet schools but there are many affordable small Caribbean med schools at least) I have no idea if I should even try for OVC this year because even doing perfect this semester, I’ll only have a small chance. I feel like it’d be best if I just focused on MCAT instead of taking another semester and just let go of the idea of becoming vet. Don't give up! I had to do 2 extra semesters (in two different years) to get my average high enough to get in. I promise it's worth it!
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Post by "be optimistic," i'm trying on Jul 11, 2023 11:58:58 GMT -5
I really want to apply to OVC in 2 years and get in, but after looking at acceptance rates and how many people that do get rejected, or even waitlisted in Canada. It's honestly stressing me out now, and I don't know what to do. Any tips, possibly?
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Post by 323132 on Jul 14, 2023 8:26:34 GMT -5
Tips? Not really, work hard and get good grades, and by good grades we mean 90+ at least. Even then you still might get rejected, I did this year after an interview. Look at other schools, move provinces or prepare to apply internationally.
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