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Post by Abcdefg on May 3, 2021 20:02:32 GMT -5
Just wondering for anyone who had an average above 90 and did not get an interview... what was your BIF like?? So rejected with 91.5, Interviewed last year with 89.5, one of my references was the same, the other two are new and the DVMs let me read them so I know they were very good (one was a surgery instructor at ovc last year). I have over 3000 hours in small animal practise including general practise emergency and exotics. I have ~100 hours large animal shadowing a vet. >200 hours volunteering at various animal related rescues/ organizations (small, large, wildlife, exotics). Most of my experience stuff is the same as last year, just more hours now. I have a publication from this year as well (I don’t know if they really care about that though since I applied as an unfergrad). Other than increasing my marks more I literally don’t know what to do 😭
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 20:03:21 GMT -5
I mean grades are necessary to make sure that applicants with the best academic level get admitted, but I feel like OVC relies too heavily on them and grade inflation is becoming a real problem...
I actually think the MCAT should have been maintained, since at least it was a standardized indicator of academic ability, and doesn't depend on what university you go to.
The other thing is, Ontario's population keeps increasing, there are more and more pets, and yet OVC hasn't increased their class size in forever. If they started accepting more people that would also go a long way to reducing these crazy minimum averages.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 20:05:34 GMT -5
Just wondering for anyone who had an average above 90 and did not get an interview... what was your BIF like?? So rejected with 91.5, Interviewed last year with 89.5, one of my references was the same, the other two are new and the DVMs let me read them so I know they were very good (one was a surgery instructor at ovc last year). I have over 3000 hours in small animal practise including general practise emergency and exotics. I have ~100 hours large animal shadowing a vet. >200 hours volunteering at various animal related rescues/ organizations (small, large, wildlife, exotics). Most of my experience stuff is the same as last year, just more hours now. I have a publication from this year as well (I don’t know if they really care about that though since I applied as an unfergrad). Other than increasing my marks more I literally don’t know what to do 😭 You sound like a great applicant, I really don't understand what's going on this year, especially since you got an interview last year and have only improved your application since!
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Post by Guest554 on May 3, 2021 22:20:34 GMT -5
For quick stats purposes, rejected with 89.7. Rejected with 89.31
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 1:36:54 GMT -5
I wish OVC was more transparent about these "red flags"...
Imagine putting in all this time and effort into your academics and veterinary experiences, becoming a highly competitive applicant, and being rejected based on some vague, non-disclosed red flag... Without knowing what it is it's also hard to improve upon. It must be devastating.
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Post by marksarenteverything on May 4, 2021 8:51:24 GMT -5
For quick stats purposes, rejected with 89.7. Rejected with 89.8
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Post by applyingtoovc2025 on May 4, 2021 9:36:10 GMT -5
I got an interview with a 93.5, but I’m heavily anxious about my chances seeing people get rejected with marks close to mine...
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Post by Discouraged on May 4, 2021 9:59:52 GMT -5
For quick stats purposes, rejected with 89.7. Rejected with 89.8 I also got rejected with an application average of 89.75. I don’t know what else to do other than increase my admission average. 😭
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Post by kitty on May 4, 2021 12:19:07 GMT -5
Congratulations to everyone who got an interview offer! You all deserve it. To those who did not receive an offer, please don't be disheartened. I can completely empathize with the frustration you must feel from the admission averages increasing every year. Your grades do not define your excellence in the field.
If anyone is looking for Casper tutoring/prep, you can message me on this platform. I scored quite highly on this test (I used it for another application that tells you your grade) and to provide complete transparency, the Casper is not a test you can study for. The most I can do for you is help you develop a structure that works for you and provide guidance in the quality of your answers!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 13:23:51 GMT -5
I got an interview with a 93.5, but I’m heavily anxious about my chances seeing people get rejected with marks close to mine... I think 93.5 is a very strong average! Some applicants also got offers with much less, so I think you're in a good position. I apologize if my posts in this thread have made anyone extra anxious, I am hoping to apply in 2 years so the steady increase in average is freaking me out... But all we can do is try our best. To all those who got an interview this year, please don't worry about grades anymore, you've made it to this stage and it's best to focus on the interviews, which I'm sure you'll all do great on!
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Post by Woofwoof on May 4, 2021 13:36:28 GMT -5
Wow! I never knew about this. This does seem very unfair. Right!? If they want to do that, they should calculate averages the same way for everyone and use exclusively letter grades. I know a lot of people say UoG is best if you want to get into OVC, but the truth is with the huge focus on academics, you can easily get a 95% average with much less effort at YorkU. I have the same frustration and I am student from York. I’m not a student with straight A+‘s. Contrary to popular belief, York has made their programs more rigorous over the years. The grading conversion can actually work against you as it has for me. For example I got a 89 in a course or an ‘A’, but after Guelph’s conversion it’s going be considered an 84.5%
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 13:52:22 GMT -5
Right!? If they want to do that, they should calculate averages the same way for everyone and use exclusively letter grades. I know a lot of people say UoG is best if you want to get into OVC, but the truth is with the huge focus on academics, you can easily get a 95% average with much less effort at YorkU. I have the same frustration and I am student from York. I’m not a student with straight A+‘s. Contrary to popular belief, York has made their programs more rigorous over the years. The grading conversion can actually work against you as it has for me. For example I got a 89 in a course or an ‘A’, but after Guelph’s conversion it’s going be considered an 84.5% Yes of course it can also be penalizing if you're just below the next grade bracket, but overall it's still highly advantageous for students applying to OVC, who will in general need 90+ in the majority of their courses to be competitive anyways. Getting 90% in every course is a great achievement, but still much easier than getting 95% in every course. It's true though that the 89 to 84.5 is particularly bad! So maybe I should have given Ryerson as an example, where a 90 still goes up to 95, but a 89 only goes down to 87. Either way, I think they should use letter grades in the same way for everyone...
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Post by tilac on May 4, 2021 15:07:30 GMT -5
Just gauging from the rejections and acceptances here I'm going to guess the cut-off was somewhere around 90, as there were people accepted with a little more and rejected with a little less. If you were above 90 and rejected, I'd suggest contacting Lowenger to see if you can get any more feedback about potential red flags in your application. It's difficult to say what was taken into consideration and I feel for all of you that were just below the cutoff or got removed from consideration for apparently arbitrary reasons. If veterinary medicine is your dream, please don't give up. In terms of people wondering where they stand in the top 200:You can guess yourself about how online courses may have altered grades since there aren't really any statistics about this. I ran through the statistics once starting when the MCAT was removed (2014):- The interview median has increased 0.68/year on average, which would suggest a median interview average of 91.24. If you are above this you *might* be in the top 100.
- The admission median has increased by 0.86/year on average which would suggest an admission median of 93.06. Therefore, if you are above this you *might* be in the top 75 or so (not everyone in the top 100 interviewed gets admitted).
For statistics, my average was a 94.1. I just want to reiterate that every year a large proportion of admitted people come from the lower 100 interview averages so your fate is by no means fully determined by your marks. Higher averages may give a slight advantage but you all still have a good chance to move up the ranks in the interviews. Once again, best of luck to all.
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Post by question on May 5, 2021 10:02:36 GMT -5
For those that got an interview, did you receive an email with more casper details after accepting the interview offer?
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Post by guest112112321 on May 5, 2021 11:20:20 GMT -5
For those that got an interview, did you receive an email with more casper details after accepting the interview offer? No, I haven't. I accepted my interview invitation on Monday and the only thing I have received is a confirmation email saying thank you for my interview response.
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Post by Determined on May 5, 2021 14:17:30 GMT -5
I got an interview with a 90.4-5 ish average. It's hard because I got that average with courses like Anatomy, Pharmacology, Reproduction, Parasitology etc. but OVC doesn't really look at that. You can take the wine tasting course and get a 97% and that counts. I also have so much experience and am so ready but every year after the interviews I've fallen less than 1% below the final cutoff. This year I'm determined and hopeful. For anyone who didn't get the interview this year, you can do it! Every year I've inched closer, I'm hoping this year is finally the year!
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Post by OVChopeful2021 on May 5, 2021 15:30:15 GMT -5
I got an interview with a 90.4-5 ish average. It's hard because I got that average with courses like Anatomy, Pharmacology, Reproduction, Parasitology etc. but OVC doesn't really look at that. You can take the wine tasting course and get a 97% and that counts. I also have so much experience and am so ready but every year after the interviews I've fallen less than 1% below the final cutoff. This year I'm determined and hopeful. For anyone who didn't get the interview this year, you can do it! Every year I've inched closer, I'm hoping this year is finally the year! You got this!! Best of luck to you and I hope you get in! Fingers crossed for you
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Post by applyingtoovc2025 on May 6, 2021 9:47:20 GMT -5
I’m trying to gauge what the cutoff and median might be for those in the interviewed group, so I was hoping those who got an interview would be willing to say what their average was? I’m sure it’s not completely accurate because not everyone who got an interview will respond, but it would be super helpful in getting a grasp of where I may be sitting going into the interview
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 13:04:54 GMT -5
I’m trying to gauge what the cutoff and median might be for those in the interviewed group, so I was hoping those who got an interview would be willing to say what their average was? I’m sure it’s not completely accurate because not everyone who got an interview will respond, but it would be super helpful in getting a grasp of where I may be sitting going into the interview Yeah we've been trying to do that a bit in this thread, but it's not easy. The cutoff seems to be at least 90%, or maybe 90.5ish% since no one under that has been offered an interview. The median is a lot harder to gauge, but historically it's been about 2-3% points higher than the minimum, so we'd be looking at around 93%. A lot of those who have received offers seem to be in the 93-94% range so I think it's likely that's a pretty good estimate.
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Post by applyingtoovc2025 on May 6, 2021 14:44:18 GMT -5
I’m trying to gauge what the cutoff and median might be for those in the interviewed group, so I was hoping those who got an interview would be willing to say what their average was? I’m sure it’s not completely accurate because not everyone who got an interview will respond, but it would be super helpful in getting a grasp of where I may be sitting going into the interview Yeah we've been trying to do that a bit in this thread, but it's not easy. The cutoff seems to be at least 90%, or maybe 90.5ish% since no one under that has been offered an interview. The median is a lot harder to gauge, but historically it's been about 2-3% points higher than the minimum, so we'd be looking at around 93%. A lot of those who have received offers seem to be in the 93-94% range so I think it's likely that's a pretty good estimate. I’m not sure about this, because last years interview median was 90.56, with the admitted median being 92.2. I have a lot of skepticism for the interview median to jump 2.5% in a year, above even the admitted median of last year. I think the breakdown that someone stated above might be more accurate, with the interviewed median at maybe 91.24, not 93-94%. I only saw 2-3 other people in this thread have an average above 93,
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